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Good morning. How you doing?
Doing great listeners, I'd like
you guys to know that today we
are going to be discussing
current legal affairs. And in
the last part of the show, we're
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come to an estate planning
seminar. If you're interested in
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Marisa, I was really interested
in prosecutions that are
occurring in Germany, Germany is
appears to me to be taking the
lead on prosecution of war
criminals coming out of Syria.
As you know, 1000s, hundreds of
1000s of Syrian refugees went
into Europe and a lot of them
ended up in Germany. The Germans
are using a theory called
universal jurisdiction to
prosecute these individuals for
war crimes. Last month, there
were news reports about a
intelligence officer in the
Syrian army that was prosecuted
and has been sentenced to life
in prison. He was involved in
more than 5000 persons deaths in
Syrian prisons, prior to his him
fleeing Syria for Germany. And
recently, there's published
reports of a Syrian physician, a
doctor, if you can believe it,
who was involved in the torture
of Syrians that were in custody
during the Civil War. When was
the Civil War? Well, is still
going on as far as I know, it
started when we pulled out of
Iraq, so I think I think it's
been going on for about 10 years
now. It's our Bashar is the
president of Syria, and he has
tortured and use chemical
weapons on his population. Why
would you do that? I don't think
he wants to give up power, and
the Russians have been
supporting his regime. But
what's interesting to me is that
European countries France, for
example, in Germany are
prosecuting these individuals
that were involved in
suppression and torture of
Syrians in Europe, and they're
using a theory called universal
jurisdiction. Have you ever
heard of it? I have not. What
universal jurisdiction is this
idea that a national court can
prosecute individuals for
serious crimes against
international laws, such as
crimes against humanity or war
crimes or genocide or torture?
Now, the United States hasn't
universal jurisdiction. And in
fact, it appears that the United
States criminal code would not
allow for use of such a theory
because of the way it's
structured. In the United
States. What has been used as
the Alien Tort Statute? Well,
this is a it's been around a
long time. And what it does is
it allows for non residents, non
US resident aliens to come in
who are in the United States, if
they've been injured outside of
the country, by a non US
citizen, they can bring a an
action here in the United
States, where the United States
has used the statute for
prosecution of foreign persons
who have engaged in these kinds
of acts. That statute requires
the defendant to be in the
United States that they've acted
under color of law of their
country, even corporations can
be prosecuted under this
statute. And it's been used to
prosecute people for torture,
extrajudicial killings, and
things like that here in the
United States. I just think it's
really interesting that
countries are European countries
are using this prosecute war
crimes and and are currently
being very active in that issue.
Have you seen anything recently
that's been of interest to you?
I
have the lawsuits and
settlements regarding the sexual
assault of students.
You know, University of Michigan
has just entered into a $490
million settlement involving a
doctor, and this doctor had been
employed by the University of
Michigan for over 30 years.
He died recently though, well,
in 2008, right. Yeah. What was
his name?
Well, his name was Robert
Anderson, and he was a physician
and he really dealt with a lot
of athletes at the University of
Michigan.
So he was like a Larry Nasser,
kind of like a Larry Nasser, you
know,
settled that lawsuit against the
Olympics for like 300 and
something like 380 million.
Yeah, it was a ton of money. And
you know, he was allowed and had
access to students for 2030
years. Apparently he was also
involved. NASA was involved in
the Olympics. Isn't he the guy
that abused the gymnast?
Yes. And there was a local
attorney. She was local. She
moved away to Texas. But she was
a plaintiff in that lawsuit. She
was in, in the Olympics, a
gymnast. And she announced the
settlement and that she was a
defendant. So it was it's not
confidential.
Well, I gotta tell you, it's
kind of shocking. One of the
things that seems to stand out
to me, or the does stand out to
me about all these cases is
people within universities were
aware this was going on in the
Nasser case. The other case was
the Sandusky case at Penn State
is sick. And so you have these
administrators or other people
within the university that are
well aware of what's going on
and they don't report it and
they allow it to continue on.
You know, the
northeast part of the reason why
it settled for so much money,
right? Well,
that in the number of victims,
this guy Anderson, it's reported
that there was over 1000
individuals who accused Dr.
Anderson of sexual abuse at the
University of Michigan, if you
can believe you would think that
that's one institution that
would be very progressive and
its policies and reporting. Even
the coach of the shum bachler,
who was the coach of the
football team, his son was
sexually assaulted by Dr.
Anderson when he was a student.
When you talk about the other
settlements, 2013, Penn State
paid nearly 60 million for the
couple dozen victims of Jerry
Sandusky, Michigan State paid
$500 million in 202,018, the
victims of Dr. Nasser
the statutes changed on
reporting sexual abuse and being
able to sue or bring charges
against somebody criminally
well, they
have all over the country. For
example, Nevada, and this has
been some time ago in 1990, the
Supreme Court said there was no
statute of limitations on child
sexual assault claims, if the
assault occurred when the
individual was a minor.
Criminal. No, that's a civil
case. And here in Nevada, the
statutes have been the criminal
statutes for sexual assault have
been changed. So there's a 20
year statute of limitations on
adults, if you are sexually
assaulted, and you report the
sexual assault to the police,
that the statute of limitations
is told the individual can be
prosecuted at any time. And if
the sexual assault involves a
minor, or, or a sex trafficking
of a minor, the statute of
limitations is age 36 of the
victim.
Now sexual assault is a pretty
broad term. That doesn't just
mean rate, right? Station
molestation, improper touching
of a person.
So just means has to be a
contact me.
That's right. A sexual contact
with a with an individual.
Okay. And but if it was
something that didn't involve a
contact, that would not be
sexual?
Well, no, it in those kinds of
cases where you have like a
hostile work environment or
somebody who is spouses
themselves? Well, exposure is a
little bit different than
exposure, I think may fall
under, it's not a sexual
assault, it's lewdness. And
depending on what the
consequences of lewd act are, I
think they're more serious
consequences to that than simply
exposing yourself. It's it can
be a very serious crime.
Interestingly enough, the
University of North Carolina
School of Arts which has been
around since the 60s, is a
premier school for arts
including dance and paint and
things like that. They have just
been named a defendant, as a
result of it looks to me like
mostly dancers that were
involved in this for sexual
abuse of students. And this goes
back for many years. In this
lawsuit, it talks about another
29 defendants, eight of whom
were recruited are accused of
actually sexually abusing
students. And then 19 former
administrators who are named
defendants who allowed this
cultural exploitation to exist,
and that case,
didn't they just settled the Boy
Scouts lawsuit and they're still
looking for victims
Boy Scout lawsuit? I think
they've set up a fund for
victims. It's just amazing to me
that individuals who the sexual
predators are allowed to be in
an environment where people
don't report
MTech sounds like people do
report and then it's being
ignored.
Well, that sure seems to be the
situation, these university
cases.
Yeah. And you've, you've done
quite an number of cases where
you've represented victims of
sexual abuse and assault, right?
I have, and what types of what
types of evidence is is used to
prove those kinds of cases? It
just like a he said, she said,
or you have to have like emails
or
will often you either it's a
combination of evidence, you can
have physical evidence where you
have a violent sexual assault on
an individual. And, in fact, the
hospitals are set up in Metro
setup, or local police
department to take victims who
report and do a physical
examination. Most hospitals have
certified nurses who do sexual
assault.
But isn't there like a backlog
on processing those
four genetic material? There is
a delay, but the physical
examination there is not the
nurses available, she has the
equipment necessary to do the
examination and photograph. They
also do diagrams of the
so what if somebody sexually
assaulted and they don't know,
the perpetrator? Would they
still be able to sue somebody,
there's two things that a victim
of sexual assault should do.
First thing is they need to
report it to the police, they
need to go to the hospital and
have a sexual assault done. If
they were raped, or if there was
physical penetration. The second
thing is they should contact a
lawyer because you have criminal
prosecutions which are handled
through the police department.
And then you have civil claim
related to the sexual assault
the civil claims, usually our
claims against the individual
and against the facility in
which the sexual assault
occurred.
So like if it was, like a school
or like a place as opposed to
somebody's house, like, correct.
Okay. So if they needed to talk
to a lawyer, they could talk to
you about this, the listeners,
right?
Sure. And it's interesting. What
we really look at is,
particularly in public events,
in hotels and casinos or in
shopping,
like Yeah, like in there leaving
the grocery store late at night?
That's exactly right. It's
whether or not there was
adequate security, what the
security situation was, what
noticed that the owner have with
regards to crimes against
persons,
if it's out of venue, then there
needs to be adequate security.
And if there's not, then there
could be criminal liability and
civil where they could sue,
right?
That's right. Exactly. Right.
Okay.
And if somebody wanted to talk
to you about that, they could go
to the website,
contact the office, and
it's 702-258-3034. That's where
we're at less stovall.com.
Unfortunately, that happens.
Oftentimes, victims of sexual
assault really don't know what
to do. And, again, victims
should report immediately to the
police and have an examination
done. And secondly, I really
recommend that a person who has
been a victim contact a civil
lawyer to determine the personal
injury lawyer, not just several
personal injury lawyer who can
give them advice with regards to
how they can recover for their
damages, civilly, let's recover
money to help them out. I was
also interested recently in self
autonomous vehicles, self
driving vehicles, right? That's
right, self driving vehicles.
And there was a newspaper,
excuse me a news article about a
engineer, Dan O'Dowd, I think is
his name. And he runs the Green
Hill software company. And they
supply software for a lot of
applications, like aeroplanes,
and space craft and things like
that. Military applications. And
he was very, he came out on it
with an ad criticizing Tesla in
particular. And he was saying
that self driving vehicles, the
software that they're using, is
really a Microsoft based
software that's just been
changed to us and vehicles. So
self driving, can they not stop
at a red light? Well, they're
supposed to, they're supposed
to, doesn't the driver have to
press the brake?
No, I think these autonomous
driving systems, you hit a
button and it's supposed to
drive and
Okay, well, there was a guy who
was charged with manslaughter
for running the light on self
driving, but you would think if
you see the lights red, and
you're on the self driving mode,
you would slam on the brakes.
You're seeing the advertisements
where they have people singing
and clapping their hands and
doing other things reading. Los
Angeles Times just reported a
auto accident where two people
were killed. They're driving
along and a Tesla went through
the intersection on autopilot.
and hit these people and killed
them. The driver of that vehicle
who was using the autopilot was
charged with manslaughter. And
this is the according the LA
Times the first case in the
United States where a person
using autopilot in a car self
driving feature has been charged
with felony manslaughter. I
don't know. It seems to me if
you're going to use autopilot in
a car, you want to keep your eye
on stuff. But I suspect a lot of
people would say, well, it's
autopilot. They told me I can do
this and get out a book and
start reading or have lunch or
talk to their family or
something like that. I don't
know. Well, this fella Dowd says
the problem. This is that Don
project, he said that, in his
study of the software that's
being used in these cars like
Tesla, is that there's a
malfunction eight every eight
minutes, every 36 minutes.
There's some sort of unforced
error that occurs within the
software sounds like a lawsuit
to Tesla, you're right, Larissa,
these car manufacturers that are
using or installing and
advertising automatic autopilot
or autonomous driving. They do
have liability if there's not a
waiver in the in the contract
that a court might court might
find to be enforceable. Excuse
me. One other thing that I
thought was interesting that I
saw in the news I thought you
might be interested in was this
removal of Theodore Roosevelt's
statute at the Museum of
American
it's a mismatch of Natural
History. Yeah.
This, this statute shows
Theodore Roosevelt on a horse.
And he's really buffed out, you
know, Theodore Roosevelt was
kind of a chunky guy. He wasn't
this big, giant guy. And walking
next to his horse is a Indian
with with a headgear on, on one
side of him, and on the other
side is a African American. And
it really is, yeah, that's
pretty faux pa now. Yeah.
And they're removing it, the
board of the museum, voted
several years ago to remove it,
because it's very offensive.
It's racist, and also a symbol
of colonialism.
So since they removed it, are
they going to sell it? No, it's
gonna go to the presidential
library for Theodore Roosevelt.
And that's probably an
appropriate place for it. It's
part of his history and it was
made for to celebrate Theodore
Roosevelt's presidency, however
misguided it might have been.
Now I understand what this a
year are doing. The state
planning seminars, tell me about
the seminars that you're going
to be putting on, I'm going
to be putting on estate planning
seminars that are open to the
public. The only thing that's
required is registration on my
website, which is southwest
estate planning.com. The
seminars will be the third
Wednesday and Thursday of every
month. So this will be starting
in February. And I'm going to be
running them monthly in the
seminars, the audience will
learn about trusts wills, estate
planning in general, we will
discuss life insurance policies,
and we will discuss a family
wealth planning sessions. And I
think that this topic is finally
getting the attention that it
deserves. Due to the pandemic
more and more people are aware
of their mortality and taking
appropriate steps to protect
their loved ones, their family
and their legacy. So in in these
seminars, we will be talking
about how to keep your family
out of court and conflict,
meaning creating proper state
planning documents that family
members cannot contest once a
person is incapacitated or they
have passed away. And this is
important because a lot of
people are unaware of the
probate process, which is the
process that occurs when a
person dies to transfer the
assets of a living person or
excuse me, of a deceased person
to living beneficiaries. And
also, people are unaware of the
guardianship process. If a loved
one or family member becomes
incapacitated and does not die,
but they're unable to manage
their financial and medical
affairs. I've been working in
these areas of law for several
years. And I think that it's a
topic that deserves a lot of
attention from the public
because it will touch most
people's lives. So these
seminars are purely educational.
And as I mentioned, the only
thing required is registration.
There will be light hors
d'oeuvres and a wine tasting
Going along with an estate
planning seminar, and if any of
the listeners are interested in
going they just need to register
at Southwest estate
planning.com. So registration at
Southwest estate planning.com
under the in person events tab.
I hope to see everybody there
and I look forward to helping
everybody that's listening.
Marisa, you've had quite a lot
of experience in handling
probate and estate matters, have
you not?
I have I have represented
celebrity estates, BB King
estate, and I've also
represented celebrities in
estate planning. So that is my
expertise. It's what I love. I
love helping with the planning
and in giving people that peace
of mind and security that their
affairs will be handled in the
event they can't handle them
themselves. And I love assisting
people with the complicated and
perplexing probate process.
Well before we sign off Larissa,
did you have fun today?
I did. Well, I
did too. It's always nice to sit
down and spend a little bit of
time talking about current
affairs with you.
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the views or opinions of 91.5
Jazz and more, the University of
Nevada Las Vegas or the Board of
Regents of the Nevada System of
Higher Education.